Native Apps (Apple, Android, etc.)

[B_Sp]

Hey guys,

I realize the scale of this one, but would be grateful for any insight into when you think this would be coming along?

My team does increasingly more on mobile, but we have tested many tools that have Desktop Apps (we use Mac) and the integration with Notifications is very useful. I’ve talked a lot about communicating inside Fibery:

@B_Sp

• And last, but very important: Intra-team Communication - big! I would love to see some of this…

…and the advent of Apps would have the added benefit of push notifications, which we use much more than Email notifications.

Since I am on the Apple platform, I am interested in Mac/iPadOS/iOS, but of course Android, Windows, etc. are all relevant, too.

Thanks for any insight you can provide as to when this might be coming!

[Oshyan]

Definitely a huge undertaking and I recall they have said publicly that mobile is low on their priority list. I wonder, though, whether an actually usable mobile web version, along with integration with web-based push mobile notifications would address enough of your needs. It probably would mine, and would almost certainly be a lower-cost and more easily maintainable approach for a small team, at least for now…

[B_Sp]

Hey, appreciate the additional commentary. Yes, I would like to get some insight to the timeline - are we talking 1 year, 3 years, etc. I have seen a need in more active software systems, like websites, etc, to be able to do stuff like respond to incidents, etc. via phone or tablet.

Also, quick add of ideas or communication from a managerial point of view - when it “hits” you, is another big use. It’s next to impossible to add anything to Fibery right now on the iPhone, for example.

Apple released big stuff on the iPad this year with the Magic Keyboard, etc. that is making that platform a viable laptop alternative. I can use Notion and Airtable pretty much as on a desktop (with their Desktop Apps I might add) on an iPad. Coda is OK, but bottom line - it has a reasonably working app for these things I’m talking about.

I think Fibery is going to be limited for sometime to certain use cases without the apps, and it also affects my longer term plans. For comparison sake, Roam as a primitive “form” that shows up on Mobile for quick add - have you seen that? That might be a good temporary solution, too, but when Apps are coming is something I’d like to at least have some general sense of. I feel like as Fibery grows, others will be asking this question frequently, too.

Cheers!

[Oshyan]

Again, do you think a usable mobile view would be adequate for your needs for now? Beyond just a “quick add”, because that’s not really so applicable with Fibery. I can imagine an Entity view for example that is a single column rather than 2, that might fit mobile.

[B_Sp]

Thanks @Oshyan. Coincidentally, I just saw this posted:

As a member I would like to view and edit data in a mobile layout

Context I am comfortable with the UI as it is. If I am to persuade the rest of the company to buy into it they will ask whether it will work from mobile. At the moment it’s ‘not yet’ Appreciate this is a big piece of work but would open the tooling up to a much wider audience. At the moment (making assumptions here) but your current active user base is very tech literate. I believe that this could be chunked up and could start delivering better value by focusing on a few key pages Navigati…

So I guess more of us with this need!

Yes, for all intents and purposes a “responsive” type approach, for example, to the web interface that would scale on tablet and mobile would be useful for sure. I want to stress though that in my case, the. notifications element is something my team really falls back on. We are trying to find a solution that lets us use our main “goto” Work Mgmt solution for as much communication as possible. Using two solutions simply leads to too much good info, content, ideas, etc. getting lost in the other tool.

Thanks again!

[Oshyan]

@B_Sp

Yes, for all intents and purposes a “responsive” type approach, for example, to the web interface that would scale on tablet and mobile would be useful for sure. I want to stress though that in my case, the. notifications element is something my team really falls back on. We are trying to find a solution that lets us use our main “goto” Work Mgmt solution for as much communication as possible. Using two solutions simply leads to too much good info, content, ideas, etc. getting lost in the other tool.

Good to hear. Regarding notifications, of course the regular web version is also not yet adequate in this way, in my opinion at least. So it’s a problem to solve overall. My understanding though is that there are ways that a mobile-oriented website can generate notifications for mobile OSs. So that could be solved without an app as well: Notifications  |  web.dev

[mdubakov]

Mobile Apps are still out of scope for the next several months.

[Illusory]

+1. At bare minimum, mobile friendly webapp (even without push notifications). We can use api and slack integration to get notifs. Ability to use phone would be very helpful for agile teams, multitasking etc.

[B_Sp]

I appreciate the transparency from @mdubakov about the plans for this, but I just wanted to reiterate that the lack of these mobile-friendly pages really holds my team back. @mentions don’t work on Mobile, and one of my colleagues had to re-jigger his phone to display the browser in “desktop” mode so he could just function in Fibery.

Hoping if you guys can get some good growth and possible team expansion, at least a responsive experience would be available earlier. 100% agree with:

@Illusory

We can use api and slack integration to get notifs

…the Slack integration works OK for now to keep us notified!

Thanks!

[JDraschil]

I second what B_Sp said. Thanks, @mdubakov for the transparency!

[cannibalflea]

@mdubakov I was wondering if there is an estimated timeline for improving the mobile web experience of Fibery. As @Oshyan mentioned, I don’t think a native app is a high priority (at least for me), but I think having fibery render properly on mobile devices would be quite useful. I often need to look through meeting notes while away from my laptop and having screens half appear and generally render poorly is a bit annoying. I also like to have one screen floating on the iPad while on video conferencing calls to take notes, but that also causes rendering issues.

[Simon_JB]

+1 I know responsive is a tricky thing (not as time-consuming as developing native apps, but still…) but on the other hand I feel Fibery is already halfway there. A few adjustments / bugfixes (thinking about search especially…and sidebar navigation) would be enough to allow to quickly glance at meeting notes or add a simple entity on the go, without necessarily redoing the UX of all pages.

[B_Sp]

I know it’s been about a year since this got any action, but it’s still a key piece for my team, and seems to have more users actually supporting the request here but haven’t actually voted if I’m reading the votes right - which incidentally looks like 5? But the counter says just 4…

Thanks and hoping this gets movement sometime soon, feel like there’s good support!

[Chr1sG]

4 votes as of right now

[Oshyan]

It appears you removed your vote It may be a bug, if you hadn’t actually ever voted for it. But if you had, then you may have accidentally removed it and been over your limit for other semi-complicated reasons and thus been unable to re-vote for it (hence showing “limit”). The popup showing who voted may just not have been updated by the system (Discourse) yet. All theorizing here though. Bottom line: 4 votes currently, none of them yours.

[B_Sp]

I just mentioned this over in your discussion on Lack of Work Management features in Fibery (Reminders, Dependencies, Notifications, My Work, etc.), and glad to see this request has picked up steam - triple the votes in a few months, that’s huge by this forum’s standard. However, the math still doesn’t add up:

I am counting 12 votes!! Yes, my own too, I never removed it! So the argument that it’s a bug looks incorrect?

and always happy to have Darth Maul on my side (the first vote)

[Oshyan]

Odd indeed, because my view doesn’t show you as a vote, shows 13 currently, and all are accounted for.

Your Votes are here, and I don’t see this one either:

B_Sp

[Darb]

I would really like (actually, I really need) some sort of Mobile experience if I am going to make Fibery work for my use case.

I work out in the field about 75% of the time. Whilst I do get onto my Laptop (MacBook) and Desktop (Mac Mini), when I am out and moving around in the field (actually doing my work) I need to be able to (at a minimum;

• Capture Tasks as they come to hand (even if I can’t relate them to a Project until later when at the Laptop/PC).
• Check off Tasks and Checklist items when in the field.
• Preferably time tasks as they are undertaken.
• Preferably see my tasks on a calendar view (at a minimum, a daily view).
• Capture notes and/or images relating to tasks and/or projects.
• Capture/edit client contact details.

As a bonus, the Mobile App could (really, it should) have the ability to work with local database offline so when in low/poor/no signal areas one can work with the Mobile App and it updates once you are back in range.

I realise that this is all far easier for me to say than it is for Fibery to execute, but I am just putting it out there so you are aware that MANY business owners/operators/managers rarely sit in front of a computer 24/7. Even dedicated office workers will need to move around and still have access to their system. Otherwise it is not really a system. It is somewhat broken.

If Fibery can’t produce a mobile App, then maybe an integration with another App might resolve the issue. Maybe a 2 Way sync of tasks with Sunsama or Taskade or Todoist or TickTick. All of these provide various aspects of Task Management with mobile Apps.

Sunsama lets you bring in events/tasks from multiple sources and lets you schedule them on a calendar and has a Mobile App (but no offline mode).

Taskade lets you schedule tasks them on a calendar, syncs with Google Calendar and has a Mobile App (but no offline mode).

Todoist lets you schedule tasks (but doesn’t have a calendar), syncs with Google Calendar and has a Mobile App (AND has an offline mode).

TickTick lets you schedule tasks (but doesn’t have a calendar), I think it syncs with Google Calendar and has a Mobile App (but no offline mode).

Maybe that’s the better way to go???

[Oshyan]

I assume you’ve tried the existing Mobile Web version (i.e. through a web browser)? It’s actually not bad, just a tad slow ([probably depending on your phone’s JavaScript performance). And of course no offline support. But I’ve been pleasantly surprised. I’m pretty sure you can most of what you outline above.

@Darb

If Fibery can’t produce a mobile App, then maybe an integration with another App might resolve the issue. Maybe a 2 Way sync of tasks with Sunsama or Taskade or Todoist or TickTick. All of these provide various aspects of Task Management with mobile Apps.

This is a pretty interesting idea actually. I have previously requested this more broadly: Bi-directional integrations/sync But I was primarily thinking of wanting to write from Fibery back to the other tools and I didn’t even think of the potential additional utility there of being able to edit certain data via other tools that have dedicated mobile apps. This reminds me of how Obsidian did things before they had their own mobile app, and it worked actually quite well. And hey, any additional support for bi-directional integrations is something I can get behind.

[Darb]

Hello Oshyan.

Thanks for the reply. I actually didn’t know about the existing Mobile Version (web extension). I guess that might do the trick until they come up with a more dedicated solution(?). I will have to give it a try. Not sure how that even works??? Is it a download or just a matter of using it via the device and browser?

I used Fibery the other day on an iPad Pro and although it seemed ok, the touch functionality was a bit clunky and I couldn’t browse templates. It was just stuck on the screen in one spot.

Yeh, I know offline support is a big ask, but it is sometimes a necessity when you are mobile and not able to get decent internet. Otherwise it becomes a definite friction point. Some of my jobs (field work) are in poor to no service areas (and this is very frustrating on a number of levels) so some sort of offline mode would be fantastic (probably much easier said than done).

Yeh, I wondered if Fibery could/would work in with one of the more specialised planning solutions that already have a Mobile App. I know that Sunsama works with Email (Microsoft Outlook), Gmail, Notion, Todoist, ClickUp, Git Hub, Jira, Trello, and Asana. It brings in ALL of these Apps (or a selection of these to suit the user) into one place. You can then plan out your tasks based on your workload/availability. It works exceptionally well. It has some reasonable level of 2 way sync with some/most/all of the Apps (I don’t use all of them).

So, if for example, you used Outlook you can create a Task in Sunsama from an email You can mark it read, archive when done etc. You can bring in Tasks from Notion and Todoist and also interact and mark those as done.

So MAYBE something like this MIGHT work in with Fibery and provide a Mobile experience at the same time. I believe that Sunsama users have requested this integration (Fibery/Sunsama) but I don’t know how long (if at all) something like this might take to happen.

I think Fibery could be a really good fit for my use case but I am trying to minimise the friction points so that my workflow is relatively smooth.

I know that there isn’t any such thing as a “perfect App” (been there, tried the likes of ClickUp etc but that concept was all marketing and hype) but even though Fibery is extremely flexible and customisable, in my opinion there are just a few fundamentals missing from the platform that might take it from “good” to “bloody fantastic”.