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[kalman]

@YvetteLans, I can confirm that we added this use case to the feature, thank you.

@YvetteLans

@kalman

One idea: On the entity (or on the rich text field), there should be a “Reference to Entity” button that opens the same UI that we will use for the User Reference Entity. This can have two extra options:

• Leave the highlighted text field empty or
• Create a summary with AI from the full text (and show it this is not a proper highlight).

But I think this is a better approach!

[YvetteLans]

That’s awesome! I just noticed that Show rich text field on the board is already in progress Fibery’s development speed is so impressive. Especially when you consider the size of the team!

[kalman]

Some Reference related news:

• Highlight modification released - let us know how you like it.
• Reference creation development is started

[kalman]

@aoe, I answer here to keep the related things in one place.

@aoe

This is especially important for us when putting extra effort in making the rich text fields as beautiful as possible (e.g. onboarding documents/documents shared with clients/wiki etc).

As a fan of distractionless reading, I understand your point, and we have something similar in the backlog. I’m unsure how it should work yet, but we are considering it. Stay tuned.

[kalman]

@YvetteLans, I answer here to keep the related things in one place.

@YvetteLans

• Related: is it really needed to show the database abbreviation at the right side? Can imagine that it can be handy sometimes, but for our use cases it’s often not helpful (we have a lot of databases that starts with the same letter and thus have the same abbreviation). I think it looks cleaner if it’s not in your face.
• Would be really awesome if we can see the full database name(s in the future) if you hoover over the reference

I added this information to the Reference creation feature, and we will try to figure out something.

[Yuri_BC]

Related: Request to reduce clicks for creating entities/references

Fast way to create task-entities

hi, is there a faster way to create linked entities than selecting the text, clicking “create entity”, searching for the type and CMD+enter? especially for creating tasks. i usually have meetings and afterwards i want to make tasks out of my notes. or i import documents from obsidian and there are a lot of tasks in them. this is aweful time consuming at the moment. any workaround? a hidden feature to create a new entity in a predefined db? in obsidian every checkbox line is a task that can …

[mdubakov]

Here is the first working version of Highlights

[Egor_K]

The link in this message seems to be dead. So, I’ll ask here: are there any plans to add fields for Relations?
Adding even the weights and directions of Relations makes their analysis more in-depth, so I totally agree with @Yuri_BC

@Yuri_BC

As a social systems developer, I am a huge fan of relationship properties, since they reveal the meaning in relationships, and much more information is available to work with in analytics.

I have tried to workaround this in Fibery using an entity type with endpoints A and B and automation buttons, but it is cumbersome and does not really work well in practice.

I think that the idea of relationship properties is very well aligned with the character and value of Fibery and will bring Fibery to the next level of interconnectivity and analysis of data.

I love Fibery so much, but the lack of this feature nullifies almost all of its advantages for me

[Chr1sG]

Do you have specific use cases, and how does the highlights functionality come close to your needs?
Are there other tools that deliver relation properties in a nice way, that could be replicated in Fibery?

[Egor_K]

My use case is similar to that one described by you. It’s not directly related to the highlight functionality, but my question is essentially a repeat of this one:

@Yuri_BC

Does References 2.0 extend to the standard Relations between database items, do they also get fields

I haven’t found any tools that provide this functionality in a nice way. However, this concept could lead to something similar to a knowledge graph/graph database to some extent. This would allow using Fibery as a more powerful data analysis tool.

[YvetteLans]

Are there plans to show the references in a more UI friendly way?

We mention entities a lot in text (especially in wikis, like Fibery does in the Fibery guide)

But currently it’s not very doable to actual do something with those references since it’s not UI friendly.

It would be really helpful if those references also show in a table.

So that you can easily see all linked items, open the source and so that you can use the quick search when it’s released

[YvetteLans]

@kalman

@YvetteLans

@kalman will this also work for the Readwise highlights (or other integrations)?

The solution is integration independent. Once the information is in the Fibery database, you should create a reference from that content.

I’m not able to add the Readwise highlight database as a source and Readwise is also not an option in the Integrations.

Is that a bug or by design?

And also curious if there is an update for this question

@YvetteLans

Are there plans to show the references in a more UI friendly way?

[mdubakov]

@YvetteLans

I’m not able to add the Readwise highlight database as a source and Readwise is also not an option in the Integrations.

I think you can add it via Link Source Database menu

[mdubakov]

@YvetteLans

Are there plans to show the references in a more UI friendly way?

It is unlikely we will do anything with references in the next 6-12 months

[Chr1sG]

@mdubakov

@YvetteLans

I’m not able to add the Readwise highlight database as a source and Readwise is also not an option in the Integrations.

I think you can add it via Link Source Database menu

I think maybe it can’t be added because the rich text field is read-only, and highlights require sources to have an editable rich text field.

[YvetteLans]

@mdubakov

I think you can add it via Link Source Database menu

@Chr1sG

I think maybe it can’t be added because the rich text field is read-only, and highlights require sources to have an editable rich text field.

Yes although you also can’t change a message (email) and there you can use the highlight function

[Chr1sG]

@YvetteLans

you also can’t change a message (email)

For an email integration Message database, the Message rich text field is actually editable.

[YvetteLans]

@Chr1sG

For an email integration Message database, the Message rich text field is actually editable.

Wow, never knew that (we copy the message to another database so we don’t use the message database at all)

@YvetteLans

I’m not able to add the Readwise highlight database as a source and Readwise is also not an option in the Integrations.

Even when this is fixed; we just added our 6th and last source database so we can’t even add Readwise if we want to