Hi guys,
LOVING the whiteboard so much since you’ve added commenting feature!
Please allow mouse wheel zoom instead of mouse wheel scroll up-down default or clicking ctrl + mw. It seems more natural on an open canvas to zoom in and out, instead of having an up-down bias.
My prediction is that this whiteboard will get Fibery a lot of business. It’s a gateway drug for us creatives.
Best,
Hendrik
Are you saying that Ctrl + mouse wheel does not zoom the whiteboard for you? Or are you saying that you want the current defaults reversed?
Not reporting that zoom is not working with ctrl and mouse wheel - it is.
I don’t know if I am asking to have defaults revered - did not know there are two things to reverse / swap. [EDIT] I think I have assumed that scrolling may not be required if zooming is effective (might be wrong about that)
I would like to be able to zoom with the wheel without the requirement to press another key.
I think there are enough people who want to use the wheel to pan or to zoom, that one of these functions will require a modifier key.
At the moment, zooming requires Ctrl, and panning requires no-key.
I suspect that if we made zooming the no-key option, then we would upset users who like things the way they are (or are at least familiar/comfortable with them).
Hi Chris,
It’s not possible to pan with the scroll wheel and so panning does not compete with the scroll wheel at all. Clicking the middle mouse button does that perfectly for us without [keyboard]-aid 
Scrolling is of course an entirely different function offered by the mouse. At the moment Fibery scrolls like it would a webpage - in one axis. This is counter-intuitive for a board with two axes.
Zooming out and zooming in on a large canvas quickly is extremely effective and intuitive with the wheel.
Hope that makes sense now.
That’s weird. For me, rolling the mouse wheel causes the whiteboard to scroll vertically.
And with my particular mouse, I can ‘rock’ the mouse wheel left and right to scroll the whiteboard horizontally.
Neither of these require a click or an extra key.
If I click the wheel (= middle button) then the cursor turns to a hand (clenched fist), and I can drag the whiteboard (= panning?)
Is ‘panning’ something different to ‘scrolling’ (with more granularity) as far as you’re concerned? Perhaps we are using language differently?
Yes.
Apologies, I realised that as soon as I put down the phone.
I have the same behaviour as you are describing. I think panning is usually not referred to as scrolling [in] common graphics applications. Scrolling is normally in a single axis.
Miro is a good example of an effective implementation of the scroll wheel zoom.
Gotcha.
Yeah, when I wrote this
it would have been more correct to write
Anyway, I think it’s unlikely that we will swap (no-key) vertical scrolling for zooming, but maybe if this gets a loads of votes, we’ll reconsider.
Throw us a line and give us a choice then?
(I have gathered a mob)
Miro is trying to identify the device used for interactions on the whiteboard, we’ll do something similar, but not right now.
Hi @alex
Not to conflate issues, I am just talking about the scroll-zoom function in the browser.
But thank you. Looking forward to having this option.
Best,
Hendrik
It boggles my mind that anyone would prefer vertical scroll as the primary interaction with the whiteboard via mouse wheel. The vast majority of mice don’t have side-to-side motion on the wheel, so in most mouse configurations/capabilities it means you can only move in 1 axis using the wheel. Surely that is of minimal real utility as you inevitably need to switch to a different interaction to move sideways (in some views a modifier key allows the wheel to also control sideways movement; if you keep the current setup it’s worth thinking about adding that). Especially when you can click the wheel and then use Pan in any direction without jumps, etc. (i.e. fluidly, with far greater control).
I think it depends on what background you have. A lot of the sw tools I use have scroll as default and zoom requiring a key modifier, so I prefer it this way because of muscle memory
But if we offer the option (as @alex mentioned) we can possibly please everyone 
Sure, same for me. It’s just that single-axis movement is nonsensical in a whiteboard context (to me). It’s the same thing as being on a regular web page, where scrolling up/down is natural and makes sense, then switching to Google Maps and now if I could only move up/down on the map with the wheel it would be incredibly frustrating. Same “tool”, different page, different context, different expectations. Now it makes more sense that wheel = zoom.
Surely your expectations of input interactions depend on the context/needs of the app, right? Like if you ever use 3D software I wouldn’t imagine you’d expect the mouse wheel to, I dunno, move the view up and down only, right? And do you end up building your whiteboards in a more up-down arrangement as a result?
Actually, I think my muscle memory (that zooming involves use of Ctrl key) overrides any contextual expectations I might have. So it kicks in and I just naturally use Ctrl key.
It’s not so much that I love being able to use the mouse wheel to pan/scroll, without having to use a key - in fact I seldom do that. When I want to pan, I often use the space key as a modifier and move the mouse around
That’s an apt comparison.
A bit of an interface paradigm shift is required working in 2 axis instead of a scrolling screen in 1 axis.
