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[Chris_Shaw]

I tend to send my feedback direct to chat in-app but I logged in just to +1 this

[Minh_Tri_Do_Hang]

Nested Mixing Lists

Yes, I voted it for long time ago, i dont know much about markdown, but do they have any limitation to implement that ? I think this “nested mixing” just some kinds of new version of markdown or something like that need to update, so I think it just a small issues or need small effort to have, but this’s really high quality thing or even best thing make me still love Obsidian: it’s really easy to navigate or input text which just keyboard shortcut (Tab and shift tabs in fibery right now 's mess when navigating). Because I didnt mention the advanced “toogle on/off” function for each bullet points, which if fibery can do this, i think no one need to try Tana or Loseq or even Obsidian

Just to be clear, I know the prioritize of Fibery right now (Table view and Reference), which i couldnt agree more about Reference, which mean backlinks or Dataview querry in Obsidian, I’m really waiting for this. But do we have a favor to adjust for this, it’s just a small change but high impact when input data in PKM

[dukevannori]

@Oshyan

allow collab across accounts without it increasing the user count of my Workspace. Notion does this, for example, and I think it could be a real growth flywheel for Fibery if they did it.

yes. this was one main reason why we chose clickup over all other candidates back a year ago because i can invite 5 guests to my account who can read and add information without it adding full users and cost. even though we are on a free plan at the moment which allows us to explore fibery. for the long run this will be an essential thing for the adoption for our team as we are non profit social and money is am issue

[dukevannori]

@Oshyan

I made a Button to work around it, which just invokes an Input box and appends to the main Rich Text field (you could make multiple buttons for different Rich Text fields I guess).

this is an amazing and perfect workaround that is even better than pasting. its not a work-around but a work-improvement. thanks for this amazing tip!!

[jondkinney]

I can’t figure out how to move sections of a document around effectively. Specifically, if I have a plain table in a rich text field, it seems like it’s “stuck” wherever it is in the document and you have to move the other text/things around it. I can’t get the table selected to even cut and paste. Is that right? It’d be much easier to build documents/layouts/dashboards if Fibery would adopt the Notion-like modal editing (somewhat like Vim) where you can type (i.e. “insert mode”) or move blocks around and/or have them selected (i.e. “normal mode”).

I know Fibery doesn’t have this same block concept…but can it / will it ever? I find it much much more difficult to use the Fibery document/rich text editor. I know you’ve said to “just use Notion” if you only need beautiful documents…but I need both

Arguably I need the advanced capabilities of Fibery’s automations and database capabilities more, that’s why I’m here. But I do really miss the general feel of editing content blocks in Notion. Like…a lot.

I’d love to know if you ever aspire to that level of fidelity?

[Oshyan]

@jondkinney

I know Fibery doesn’t have this same block concept…but can it / will it ever? I find it much much more difficult to use the Fibery document/rich text editor. I know you’ve said to “just use Notion” if you only need beautiful documents…but I need both

They thought so at one time, but now I don’t really know where this effort is at in terms of priority, etc:

Migrate Entity View to Blocks

We create a new Entity View where per-Type elements (rich-text Fields → Text Blocks, context Lists → View Blocks, etc.) coexist with per-Entity elements (Text/Whiteboard/View Block). Structured Fields (currently on the right) are left intact for now. No need to migrate EVERYTHING on the left (Files, Comments, etc.), these things are enough for the first iteration: Text Block (aka collabdoc, Prose Mirror) Permissions for native Blocks are a must. Contributors+ can reorder/add/remove Blocks on …

[Louis-FelixBorealys]

Their would be this : Keyboard shortcut to re-order bullets/numbers lists that will change my life

[njyo]

Thanks a lot, Fibery team, the documents have gotten MUCH better already indeed!

Refinements already mentioned in this thread, sorted by my priority:

1. Transclusions
2. Export as single-page PDF → my workaround is export MD and then use Marked 2 to generate PDF. But obviously that’s a pain…
3. Collaboration on a single doc without login

Refinements not mentioned here, as per my priority:

1. Third width option (see below): There is right now only narrow and full screen. On bigger screens neither options are good as you see below. I would love to have an in-between option with about max-width as 100rem (ca. 1600px). This will work great for tables, which I’m a fan of.
2. Copy content with comments looses comment: If copying text in a document that has inline comments, these comments get lost. That’s really bad. Not sure how easy that’s to fix tho.
3. Text table improvements: Admittedly, I’m a big fan of tables, and thus I find the limited inline tables very annoying:
   1. Adding new rows required the use of the mouse, grrrrrrrrrrrrr
   2. A nice default header style (current workaround is Mark cell and Bold on every table. With a nice header, it can also be made sticky. Obviously I should have Header rows and columns…
   3. Give a cell a colour background
   4. Better resizing behaviour: For one, I can make the table wider than the page column, in which case I get a scroll bar. Bringing it back to column width is hard. Your image embeds have actually solved that nicely as they snap to column width. Two, by default, it’s the last column that expands… Confluence does this nicely by scaling based on content (I suspect that’s a default HTML behaviour actually).

Thanks!

And here the pictures on my problem with the two page widths—admittedly not the best examples, but I think you can see how these things become an issue:

Narrow:

Wide:

[aoe]

I’m still missing anchor links within a page.

E.g. something like this.

https://env.fibery.io/Document-123/#section-on-page

I know the TOC exists but being able to link to different sections within the same page (and without reload) would really allow for more rich knowledge base documents.

[Chr1sG]

If you hover over a heading in a document, then a symbol will appear which provides an anchor link when you click on it.

[aoe]

And would the page scroll to that section without a page reload?

[Marloes]

Made a seperate feature request, but probably better to link it here.

Toggle option in Rich text fields

What I used a lot in Notion is the Toggle function. I frequently miss this in Fibery when formatting documents visually. Especially for long documents with lots of text and images. [image] The solution in Fibery, which is close to the solution in Notion, is the H function. If you pass an H1 - H4, you create a toggle. The only thing that I think is a very big drawback is that if you close the toggle, everything that comes after it is also closed in the toggle. You cannot control what you do/d…

[Yuri_BC]

@aoe

And would the page scroll to that section without a page reload?

Unfortunately, the URL of a page does not change when scrolling. The fibery forum (which is a Discourse platform) does have that functionality, but Fibery does not yet.

This is actually a bug in fibery (please create a bug report) because an anchor link should work in all cases to redirect to the header it belongs to.

How to reproduce: Click an anchor link, it works one time. Scroll away on the same page, the anchor link does not work any more, because the URL of the page is the same.

Use case: when you create a navigation menu with links to either anchors in the same page or in other pages, in any of these cases the anchor links only work once, until you click a link with a different URL.

Other bug: Loss of anchor when mentioning. Related to anchor links is that if you paste the anchor link somewhere and then click ‘Mention’ in the link menu, the anchor part of the URL is lost, and it becomes just a page link. So the mention feature has not integrated the anchor link feature. See also this post.

[Mikhail]

This feature is sorely lacking in the docs:

Ability to hide report elements (title, header, filter, etc.)

Hi! Very lacking the ability to hide elements of the graph. If it is embedded in a document, I need only the chart itself. Reasons: much better look, cleaner, without unnecessary elements i can write the name in the document itself configuration, update, etc. can be shown only when hovering over it. This is what it looks like now: [10065chrome] I’d like to see a clean chart: [10067chrome] Thank you!

[njyo]

One more FRQ to add:

Lock embedded whiteboards. If I embed a whiteboard it should almost behave like an image unless I go into an edit mode. Currently it messes with scrolling as well as it’s very easy for people to mess up stuff when clicking about.

Yes, edit modes often add an extra layer of cognitive load, but I think in this context it’s understandable:

1. I select the whiteboard to embed
2. I select the default zoom level and cropping (yeah, when the white board expands it’ll mess up)
3. I click “Lock board” → you could probably generate a PNG and embed that ion the page
4. If I want to edit, I click the embed and select “Unlock embed” or “Edit whiteboard”

Thanks!

[Robert_B]

You know I have been hoping for that type of functionality in every other whiteboard system I’ve used, including the big ones like Miro. I have a feeling it’s not so easy. I would love that feature. I alwasy run into the canvas/whiteboard being show totally different than I want then getting stuck in the embed scrolling etc. So I just take screenshots and put a manual link in. Not graceful, but less stressful. If they can do what you’re asking that would be amazing!

[njyo]

Well, I am not surprised that embedding let’s say Miro in another tool like Notion would have that problem. Because Notion needs to treat it like any other embed… but Fibery in Fibery (or Miro in Miro) should be able to do so as they are part ands parcel of the same system.

[njyo]

Oh, one more tiny but impactful FRQ for the rich text documents:

Give H2 and H4 a slightly different colour. I think the overall sizing of H1, H2, H3, H4 is reasonably balanced. But, the differences between the levels are IMHO a little too subtle. Thus, giving H2 and H4 a slight tint would make it very clear that they are at a different level than H1 and H3.

Of course I could use a highlighter, but as you can imagine, that’ll be rather ugly and also very cumbersome.

Thanks!

[Minh_Tri_Do_Hang]

this’s relevant for css type and theme. Honestly I’m really missing custom theme in Obsidian where i can even select font, type, heading type, call out, checkbox, vim mode, zen mode …
But i can sacrifice all of those just for mixing bullet list only