A way to have transclusions... helps me a lot... visual learners may like this

Hi there,

(p.s. I got ‘to-many’ and ‘to-one’ backwards at first.)

So a few of us have talked about transclusions in the past. Some products like Obsidian and Affine have these built-in.

I have found a way to gain the value of transclusions with only minimal shortcomings - in fact, shortcomings that don’t bother me at all.

My use case is that I’m always tracking things from many angles - in other words, an action-oriented “thing” (really a task) of some kind gets associated with many other things: (e.g. build, app, entity, etc.) - so there are like, say, five current “things” that are established in a way that is intuitive to me, and they all share a common set of next steps.

I know that you can simply have a task list of steps (e.g. 1-5 next steps) - but for me - and others I’m certain - a task list can:

  1. lose it’s meaning
  2. become way too big or require way too many ‘modifiers’
  3. just not be what you want to use
  4. subtly communication “blech”- task lists, task lists.
  5. become something you learn to ignore like noise when always used

So I created a database called “Next” - with 2 columns:

  1. Name
  2. Description (rich-text field)

Hands-down my favorite characteristic of Fibery is viewing “tasks” - blech - visually - in different ways - especially as parts of rich-text documents that provide tons of context - and also as whiteboards.

By having each of my spaces have a to-one relationship with Next, and then putting Next description (rich text field) above the description of whatever entity I’m viewing - and even sharing that Next description amongst many - I now have that same visually-satisfying(!?-is that the right word) way of viewing things - without resorting to just another task on a task list that I always manage to ignore.

Things in my world (business and professional) are organized in a way that’s intuitive to me, at a high-level.

The moment I stumble across a ‘task list’ it’s like being asked to spend my time in the most awful, un-interesting way possible. So simply having task as the go-to simply doesn’t work for me.

That said, when I “seek-out” the task list - it works. In other words, if my week is going by and to gauge how it’s going I have to view a big-ass list, it’s a fail. But if I want to view the “list of things to do” for Dr. X, then it’s a different story. I sought that, so it’s not so off-putting.

(Keep in mind traumatic brain injury, ADHD, visual learner.)

So if you look at this image, transclusions are doable and easy and (for me) ultra-helpful.

What does that show?

  1. Title of entity at top
  2. Assignee/People
  3. Tags (I make heavy use of Tags)
  4. The to-one NAME relationship with Next (as a field)
  5. The to-one Description lookup with Next (visually)
  6. Description of my current entity.

I have around 4-8 different entities sharing this ‘Next’. It could be tasks, bullets, numbers - I chose checkboxes for this one. Other times callouts. etc.

In order to modify the “translclusion” I simply go to (4) above and alt-click - and it opens to the right - every bit as simple and straightforward as Obsidian.

At any rate, I find this wildly helpful and perhaps you can benefit from it too.

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As an aside, I have found this to be far the most effective way - to keep “stuff” from being added and then effectively lost.

This let’s me connect things. And I routinely use it to ‘pair/pare’ - delete things as well.

This is more for pkm people.

You can improve the simple way I’m using it and leverage it even more fully.