Problem It’s very hard to work with data in Fibery, since you have only single open entity/view in the main area. It leads to the following problems: Loss of context when you open entities in collections or references. You have to remember where you’ve been. High cognitive load for all side-actions. Main flow is interrupted by some sudden sub-flow and it’s hard to go back easily. Solution We’ll experiment with making multi-panel navigation a major UX pattern in Fibery. It will be easy to open anything in any panel. Quickly show a second panel from anywhere When there is a single panel visible, there is a button/shortcut to split the screen (open a panel on the left, open a panel on the right). [image] Going to the source of knowledge opens the left panel (ex. Block Source, to-one relation), digging deeper opens the right one (ex. to-many relation, Entity mention in text). For example, here we have a feature in a single panel, but I clicked on a user story and it opens in the right→ panel: [image] References Obsidian is a good one Your amazing YOUness - Alexis Rondeau - Obsidian Publish Your amazing YOUness - Alexis Rondeau - Powered by Obsidian Publish. Innos is cool as well https://innos.io/space/c1259ea0-2879-b587-916a-766a58fe9441?ps=c1259ea0-2879-b587-916a-766a58fe9441,e8b0d066-1b60-45fc-9339-d2c5427ecc02 [image]

Might coloured headers be a configurable thing? The use of colour is quite strong but also does help to anchor what entity type is being viewed. Appreciate this may add complexity though…

the colored labels on top are enough for me to differentiate Screenshot on 2022-01-06 at 17:27:42.png - Droplr The colored headers was too much for me liking

I agree with that. I both like the way it looks now, and find it visually useful without being distracting. [image] A problem I had with coloured text sometimes was the readability of it. The current design allows for easy reading of the labels and scanning using the coloured boxes.

I have been using the multi-panel layout and really find it amazing :star_struck: So thanks for prioritizing this and making it available as an experimental feature. I am not sure if this is the best place to offer improvement suggestions (please let me know if I should create separate feature requests), but here are current thoughts to make this feature even better: Ability to adjust the panel widths. Currently both views are sized to be equal and on some smaller screens this could cause some problems when you only need one of the views as a quick reference. Being able to drag and adjust the vertical divider would be very helpful Ability to reorganize the open views. There is a logic to how entity views are organized but sometimes it is useful to be able to reorganize the order of the open entities A button to open an entity view in a brand new browser tab. While the multi-panel is very helpful in keeping tabs to a minimum, there is sometimes a need to undock and open an entity in its own tab. This is not a big deal because you can copy the entity URL from the header but it would be a great addition. I will try and add more ideas as I use this more.

Released today [image] CHANGELOG: Feb 17: Multi-panel navigation, Convert fields (Text, Dates), Integration API docs, 24 fixed bugs Changelog mount_fuji Multi-panel navigation After three months of development, many implemented tasks, and 37 fixed bugs, we are releasing multi-panel navigation. It should simplify information exploration and works best with references. [image] Here is the post with more details. https://fibery.io/blog/multi-panel-navigation/ Next things we are considering to add: Important fields concept. Important fields will be always visible in a panel. An ability to search and open any entity in some panel. O…

[image] cannibalflea: A button to open an entity view in a brand new browser tab. While the multi-panel is very helpful in keeping tabs to a minimum, there is sometimes a need to undock and open an entity in its own tab. I had assumed Middle-Click or at least Ctrl-Click would allow this, but nope! Ctrl-click is close, but it opens in “context-preserving” mode, i.e. the entity view opens alongside, not in a dedicated, full view. I would rather consider that a bug, though I’m not sure how easy it is to solve.

Thanks for pointing out the ctrl+click option. I use that quite often for clicking on inline entities. What I was thinking is that sometimes you have an entity view open and you realize it would be better to open it separately. I thought adding another button to the top row might be the easiest way of ‘undocking’ the entity view from the current tab: [image] I actually didn’t know about the middle-click. Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem to work work me. Where can you use the middle click to interact with entities?

[image] cannibalflea: What I was thinking is that sometimes you have an entity view open and you realize it would be better to open it separately. I thought adding another button to the top row might be the easiest way of ‘undocking’ the entity view from the current tab: Interesting, but to clarify, did you intend this button to literally open the currently open Entity in a new browser tab? If so, what happens to the open entity in the original tab? Does it auto-close? [image] cannibalflea: I actually didn’t know about the middle-click. Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem to work work me. Where can you use the middle click to interact with entities? In most websites middle-click will open a link in a new tab. So that’s all I was referring to. Fibery takes over the mouse functions for its own approach, so it doesn’t work (Ctrl is a more forceful way to do it which still only partially works). But it could work if Fibery allowed it to. Of course not everyone has (or knows) middle-click. Alt-click is a common option in Fibery, but also seems to do nothing different than a regular click. Alt+Click to open in a new tab could be interesting, though just properly handling the more familiar Ctrl+Click (force open tab) and not having it open with the split view would be better. And in any case it doesn’t really address your request, as I understand it, for “I have this open in one way but want to open it in another way instead, and do so quickly/easily”.

[image] Oshyan: Interesting, but to clarify, did you intend this button to literally open the currently open Entity in a new browser tab ? If so, what happens to the open entity in the original tab? Does it auto-close? Yes, that is what I was thinking. I’m not sure if it is useful to others but I sometimes need to have two entities in full screen (most often on two different displays). To be honest, this isn’t be a big deal, but having a button saves at least 3-4 clicks and a paste operation. I think it could be amazing if you could bring the entity you moved into a new browser into the previous context somehow (i.e. go the other way and close the new tab and bring the entity view back into the original window). Not sure if that is even possible!

Getting that advanced starts to become more the realm of an Electron-based desktop app IMO. Where you could have Fibery running as a dedicated, installable app (not a PWA), and it could have multiple windows that you could perhaps flexibly rearrange, split views, etc. Sounds like a lot of work though, heh. I doubt the team will go that route. But it’s useful to know what people want/need, of course.

[DONE] Multi-panel context-preserving navigation

Ideas & Features

mdubakov February 17, 2022, 1:20pm 40

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[DONE] Multi-panel context-preserving navigation

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