In some apps, I have type A that is a parent to type B, which is in turn a parent to type A. It would be nice if it was possible to represent this in some way (like in whiteboards, smart folders, and/or the newly released hierarchical lists :slight_smile: )

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks! Definitely hope it can change it the future :slight_smile:

I can relate to that also from the PRINCE2 perspective. There is the workaround as used in other SWs and Excel sheets in Excel managed organizations :slight_smile: Using the basic setup of: Portfolio – Programme ---- Project You create an “empty” programme for the cases of projects being direc…

@Polina_Zenevich and @Chr1sG I was wondering if there was any updates on this idea/request. It is one of the things that has been really bugging me. In fairness, I don’t know if any other apps do this (or do this well). However, it seems to that fibery’s relations allow you to setup the nesting rel…

You’re suggestion is totally logical, but for your example, there is nothing to stop a Project being linked to a Program and a Portfolio at the same time. So if Project D is linked to Portfolio Alpha (as well as being linked to Program 03 - Year 2) where would it show in the hierarchical list? The …

[image] Chr1sG: So if Project D is linked to Portfolio Alpha (as well as being linked to Program 03 - Year 2) where would it show in the hierarchical list? The obvious answer is under both of them I could be wrong, but I think my approach would actually mean that Project D would actually only…

[image] cannibalflea: filter relation fields based on another field (i.e. if you choose a Portfolio, the list of Programs is limited to Programs under that Portfolio). https://help.fibery.io/en/articles/3310832-hierarchical-relations :slightly_smiling_face: [image] cannibalflea: I hope …

@Chr1sG I totally agree that whatever solution that is considered, it would have to be evaluated for unforeseen impacts. And I don’t doubt the issues you are raising, however, I am not seeing how the two cases you provided would conflict with the suggested logic. I don’t use these two templates, bu…

[image] cannibalflea: neither app have any databases that have relations to themselves Sorry, I guess I wasn’t clear :confused: When I presented the two examples, I was just trying to imagine that a user could have developed a space with similar complexity and included self-relation for one …

FYI, this thread originally started as a discussion about recursion, where relations between databases A → B → A is possible, but not able to be shown in Smart folders or hierarchical lists. It’s turned into a discussion about self-relation, which is fine, but perhaps the topics need splitting?

[image] Chr1sG: If a hierarchical list is to display all databases, I can’t see how Fibery can determine whether an Attempt should be prioritised to be mapped under a Participant or a Task? I guess the answer is that the user is required to choose a single ‘hierarchical path’ (either Test → Par…

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Self-relations in all levels were added in latest release

Topic		Replies	Views
[DONE] Many-to-many relationships should be usable for levels in lists Ideas & Features list-view	25	3366	June 2, 2022
CHANGELOG: February 25 / Hierarchical Lists (beta), some improvements Changelog	28	3082	June 7, 2021
Relationship properties Ideas & Features flexible-domain	42	2937	March 10, 2026
[Essay] The Knowledge Organization — looking for the most natural way to organize collective knowledge Methods	5	1747	September 7, 2020
🌰 Fibery major conceptual (yet) unsolved problems News & Announcements	33	1149	July 7, 2025

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