# With Lookups, relation to Lookup visible in "Looked Up" entity?

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**Created:** [April 26, 2020, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/with-lookups-relation-to-lookup-visible-in-looked-up-entity/657 "2020-04-26T20:56:31Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 2, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/with-lookups-relation-to-lookup-visible-in-looked-up-entity/657/4 "2020-05-02T19:44:41Z")

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Hi again guys, please forgive the barrage but just eager to understand as much as I can!

Micheal, as a particular use of what I think you are speaking of re: the Lookup “visibility” in a Collections, is this a good example?

What I’m trying to do here is set up what I think may be a typical situation in CRM:

- Company - a sort of “hub” of all that goes on with one of your clients
- Contact - the actual rep at the client with whom certain activities are done: Conversations, Deals, etc.
- Conversations - one type of “activity” as mentioned above.

As through the life of a Client, there may be various individuals that you interact with, which are the “contacts” in this case, I wanted to use Fibery’s flexibility to give a way to track each of these reps. My team has found this useful as we frequently have multiple reps of a client we work with through the history of a contract.

So what I’ve done here is set up the Contact, “E Jones,” as the entity to have this Client Conversation. That Client is tied to the Company “J Inc”, so I used the Lookup to show in the Conversation which company this conversation is carried out with:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/fibery/original/2X/c/cbb4a9b0ee7a3c1972e4591b8e9293e09d9b144d.png)

So here back in the Company card - which again I’d like to use as a sort of “Company Hub,” right now I don’t pick up those conversations connected via the Lookup.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/fibery/original/2X/4/417e812ef5008e85866a119250b653248fd485ad.png)

But if I’ve understood you correctly, the “Lookup Collection” you speak of will show these conversations, just not have a true “relation” in the Fibery backend.

I think that’s a terrific solution. You don’t need the actual relation, but the visibility is absolutely useful, and missing right now.

In fact, I think what you are talking about would fulfill one of my mass of requests in here 😊, because this does exactly what I described in this one:

> [@Add a view of "Collection" entities within another entity that are not related, just for reference](https://community.fibery.io/t/add-a-view-of-collection-entities-within-another-entity-that-are-not-related-just-for-reference/568):
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> Hello again! I agree that Fibery is a much simpler tool to configure and set up than both Notion and Coda. One of the great features are the easy-to-set up relations between entities. You guys have great views as well with your “connections” features between many-to-many relations: I was remarking that in Notion, the best way to duplicate this view is with an embedded db. There are a lot of benefits to that view. However, those are not related entities. So I thought if you co…

Thanks again guys, and hope this is all useful too you and not overwhelming!

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