# Restore Default HIDE-When-Empty Behavior (with Option to Instead Show-When-Empty) in Display of Collections in Entity View

**URL:** <https://community.fibery.io/t/restore-default-hide-when-empty-behavior-with-option-to-instead-show-when-empty-in-display-of-collections-in-entity-view/3465>\
**Category:** Ideas & Features\
**Created:** [November 1, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/restore-default-hide-when-empty-behavior-with-option-to-instead-show-when-empty-in-display-of-collections-in-entity-view/3465 "2022-11-01T18:43:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![DarrenLSchultz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/45deac/32.png) [@DarrenLSchultz](https://community.fibery.io/u/DarrenLSchultz)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/restore-default-hide-when-empty-behavior-with-option-to-instead-show-when-empty-in-display-of-collections-in-entity-view/3465/1 "2022-11-01T18:43:23Z")

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While through my review of this forum I’ve found no evidence to show that this is a duplicate proposal, if it _is_ then my deepest apologies for the error (and please feel free to set me straight).

_ **Background** _

Many moons ago, _hide_-when-empty was the default (and in fact _only_) option by which a collection of _ **auto** _-related-database (aka, related-_type_) entities could be seen in entity view. At some point though, that option was entirely _reversed_ — the default option for viewing an _ **auto** _-related collection in entity view instead became (and still remains) _show_-when-empty.

_ **Proposal** _

Although the recently added option to altogether hide a collection from showing in entity view is tremendously awesome and wonderful, I respectfully propose and urge — if it wouldn’t be too much trouble — the addition of one further tweak to entity-view collection settings: the creation of **a _hide_-when-_empty_ option** — _or even better_, to **make _hide_-when-empty the default behavior** and to couple it with an option to instead _show_-when-_empty_. Exactly that — via the “Show empty Field values” toggle — is the default behavior [and available alternate option] now governing the pinned fields area, and I respectfully suggest making collections conform to the same functionality.

I for one would find this exceedingly helpful, and I respectfully urge its adoption.

{I’ll also just add my belief that adopting this (what I think to be — and please correct me if I’m wrong — easily implementable) change would and will (at least to some degree) lessen the urgency of calls for a fully customizable entity-view template option. (See, e.g.: [Individual Layouts for a node, hide fields etc](https://community.fibery.io/t/individual-layouts-for-a-node-hide-fields-etc/995) and [Reduce empty relation noise when sharing entity](https://community.fibery.io/t/reduce-empty-relation-noise-when-sharing-entity/2389).) I could be wrong about this, but I feel it’s gotta help in at least some small way.}

Anyway, those are my “two cents” on this, and I thank you all for your time and consideration!

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**Author:** ![DarrenLSchultz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/45deac/32.png) [@DarrenLSchultz](https://community.fibery.io/u/DarrenLSchultz)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 7:08pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/restore-default-hide-when-empty-behavior-with-option-to-instead-show-when-empty-in-display-of-collections-in-entity-view/3465/2 "2022-11-01T19:08:08Z")

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NOTE: I’ve revised my original post to reflect that (as I’ve now remembered) the previous hide-when-empty functionality for collections in entity view applied only with respect to auto-related collections. The substance of (and reason underlying) my proposal, however, remains the same.