# References reloaded

**URL:** <https://community.fibery.io/t/references-reloaded/4879>\
**Category:** Ideas & Features\
**Created:** [August 1, 2023, 4:40am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/references-reloaded/4879 "2023-08-01T04:40:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![kalman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/kalman/32/4704_2.png) [@kalman](https://community.fibery.io/u/kalman)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 8:55am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/references-reloaded/4879/63 "2023-10-19T08:55:06Z")

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@YvetteLans, I can confirm that we added this use case to the feature, thank you.

> [@YvetteLans](#):
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> > [@kalman](#):
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> > One idea: On the entity (or on the rich text field), there should be a “Reference to Entity” button that opens the same UI that we will use for the User Reference Entity. This can have two extra options:
> > 
> > - Leave the highlighted text field empty or
> > - Create a summary with AI from the full text (and show it this is not a proper highlight).
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> But I think this is a better approach!

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**Author:** ![YvetteLans](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/yvettelans/32/6101_2.png) [@YvetteLans](https://community.fibery.io/u/YvetteLans)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 9:43am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/references-reloaded/4879/64 "2023-10-19T09:43:01Z")

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That’s awesome! I just noticed that [Show rich text field on the board is already in progress](https://the.fibery.io/@public/Public_Roadmap/Roadmap-Board-5974#Roadmap_Item/Show-Rich-text-field-on-the-Board-view-236) 🤯🤩 Fibery’s development speed is so impressive. Especially when you consider the size of the team!

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**Author:** ![kalman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/kalman/32/4704_2.png) [@kalman](https://community.fibery.io/u/kalman)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 1:16pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/references-reloaded/4879/65 "2023-10-19T13:16:37Z")

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Some Reference related news:

- [Highlight modification](https://the.fibery.io/@public/Public_Roadmap/Roadmap_Item/Modify-Reference-selection-219) released - let us know how you like it.
- [Reference creation](https://the.fibery.io/@public/Public_Roadmap/Roadmap_Item/Reference-creation-212) development is started

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**Author:** ![kalman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/kalman/32/4704_2.png) [@kalman](https://community.fibery.io/u/kalman)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 2:08pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/references-reloaded/4879/66 "2023-10-20T14:08:37Z")

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@aoe, I answer here to keep the related things in one place.

> [@Oct 19, 2023 / sweat\_smile Browser notifications, modify reference selection, experimental new comments](https://community.fibery.io/t/oct-19-2023-browser-notifications-modify-reference-selection-experimental-new-comments/5307/18):
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> This is especially important for us when putting extra effort in making the rich text fields as beautiful as possible (e.g. onboarding documents/documents shared with clients/wiki etc).

As a fan of distractionless reading, I understand your point, and we have [something similar in the backlog](https://the.fibery.io/@public/Public_Roadmap/Roadmap_Item/Hide-Reference-Highlights-237). I’m unsure how it should work yet, but we are considering it. Stay tuned.

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**Author:** ![kalman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/kalman/32/4704_2.png) [@kalman](https://community.fibery.io/u/kalman)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/references-reloaded/4879/67 "2023-10-20T14:11:51Z")

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@YvetteLans, I answer here to keep the related things in one place.

> [@Oct 19, 2023 / sweat\_smile Browser notifications, modify reference selection, experimental new comments](https://community.fibery.io/t/oct-19-2023-browser-notifications-modify-reference-selection-experimental-new-comments/5307/15):
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> - Related: is it really needed to show the database abbreviation at the right side? Can imagine that it can be handy sometimes, but for our use cases it’s often not helpful (we have a lot of databases that starts with the same letter and thus have the same abbreviation). I think it looks cleaner if it’s not in your face.
> - Would be really awesome if we can see the full database name(s in the future) if you hoover over the reference 🤯

I added this information to the Reference creation feature, and we will try to figure out something.

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**Author:** ![Yuri\_BC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/yuri_bc/32/8803_2.png) [@Yuri\_BC](https://community.fibery.io/u/Yuri_BC)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 6:24pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/references-reloaded/4879/68 "2023-11-22T18:24:12Z")

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Related: Request to reduce clicks for creating entities/references

> [@Fast way to create task-entities](https://community.fibery.io/t/fast-way-to-create-task-entities/5434):
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> hi, is there a faster way to create linked entities than selecting the text, clicking “create entity”, searching for the type and CMD+enter? especially for creating tasks. i usually have meetings and afterwards i want to make tasks out of my notes. or i import documents from obsidian and there are a lot of tasks in them. this is aweful time consuming at the moment. any workaround? a hidden feature to create a new entity in a predefined db? in obsidian every checkbox line is a task that can …

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**Author:** ![mdubakov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/mdubakov/32/10_2.png) [@mdubakov](https://community.fibery.io/u/mdubakov)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 12:34pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/references-reloaded/4879/69 "2024-01-18T12:34:31Z")

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Here is the first working version of Highlights

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**Author:** ![Egor\_K](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/egor_k/32/9710_2.png) [@Egor\_K](https://community.fibery.io/u/Egor_K)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/references-reloaded/4879/70 "2024-07-30T16:35:00Z")

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The link in this message seems to be dead. So, I’ll ask here: are there any plans to add fields for Relations?  
Adding even the weights and directions of Relations makes their analysis more in-depth, so I totally agree with @Yuri_BC

> [@Relationship properties](https://community.fibery.io/t/relationship-properties/887/14):
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> As a social systems developer, I am a huge fan of relationship properties, since they reveal the meaning in relationships, and much more information is available to work with in analytics.
> 
> I have tried to workaround this in Fibery using an entity type with endpoints A and B and automation buttons, but it is cumbersome and does not really work well in practice.
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> I think that the idea of relationship properties is very well aligned with the character and value of Fibery and will bring Fibery to the next level of interconnectivity and analysis of data.

I love Fibery so much, but the lack of this feature nullifies almost all of its advantages for me 😔

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**Author:** ![Chr1sG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/chr1sg/32/3941_2.png) [@Chr1sG](https://community.fibery.io/u/Chr1sG)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/references-reloaded/4879/71 "2024-07-30T19:14:15Z")

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Do you have specific use cases, and how does the highlights functionality come close to your needs?  
Are there other tools that deliver relation properties in a nice way, that could be replicated in Fibery?

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**Author:** ![Egor\_K](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/egor_k/32/9710_2.png) [@Egor\_K](https://community.fibery.io/u/Egor_K)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/references-reloaded/4879/72 "2024-07-30T21:05:23Z")

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My use case is similar to [that one](https://community.fibery.io/t/relationship-properties/887) described by you. It’s not directly related to the highlight functionality, but my question is essentially a repeat of this one:

> [@Yuri\_BC](#):
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> Does References 2.0 extend to the standard Relations between database items, do they also get fields

I haven’t found any _tools_ that provide this functionality in a nice way. However, this concept could lead to something similar to a knowledge graph/graph database to some extent. This would allow using Fibery as a more powerful data analysis tool.

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**Author:** ![YvetteLans](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/yvettelans/32/6101_2.png) [@YvetteLans](https://community.fibery.io/u/YvetteLans)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 3:12pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/references-reloaded/4879/73 "2024-07-31T15:12:44Z")

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Are there plans to show the references in a more UI friendly way?

We mention entities a lot in text (especially in wikis, like Fibery does in the Fibery guide)

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/fibery/original/2X/c/cd303c31816cd89143ac10825c41a3c4af71c5fa.png)

But currently it’s not very doable to actual do something with those references since it’s not UI friendly.

It would be really helpful if those references also show in a table.

So that you can easily see all linked items, open the source and so that you can use the [quick search when it’s released 😍](https://community.fibery.io/t/planned-table-view-quick-search/1846)

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**Author:** ![YvetteLans](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/yvettelans/32/6101_2.png) [@YvetteLans](https://community.fibery.io/u/YvetteLans)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 7:39pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/references-reloaded/4879/74 "2024-09-23T19:39:42Z")

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> [@kalman](#):
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> > [@YvetteLans](#):
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> > @kalman will this also work for the Readwise highlights (or other integrations)?
> 
> The solution is integration independent. Once the information is in the Fibery database, you should create a reference from that content.

I’m not able to add the Readwise highlight database as a source and Readwise is also not an option in the Integrations.

Is that a bug or by design?

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/fibery/original/2X/0/0ac386dda5bcdfbe6e7919b0ee56b1c4c040bd80.png)

And also curious if there is an update for this question 👇🏻

> [@YvetteLans](#):
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> Are there plans to show the references in a more UI friendly way?
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> ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/fibery/original/2X/c/cd303c31816cd89143ac10825c41a3c4af71c5fa.png)

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**Author:** ![mdubakov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/mdubakov/32/10_2.png) [@mdubakov](https://community.fibery.io/u/mdubakov)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 8:45am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/references-reloaded/4879/75 "2024-09-24T08:45:43Z")

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> [@YvetteLans](#):
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> I’m not able to add the Readwise highlight database as a source and Readwise is also not an option in the Integrations.

I think you can add it via Link Source Database menu

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**Author:** ![mdubakov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/mdubakov/32/10_2.png) [@mdubakov](https://community.fibery.io/u/mdubakov)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 8:46am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/references-reloaded/4879/76 "2024-09-24T08:46:04Z")

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> [@YvetteLans](#):
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> Are there plans to show the references in a more UI friendly way?

It is unlikely we will do anything with references in the next 6-12 months

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**Author:** ![Chr1sG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/chr1sg/32/3941_2.png) [@Chr1sG](https://community.fibery.io/u/Chr1sG)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:00am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/references-reloaded/4879/77 "2024-09-24T09:00:19Z")

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> [@mdubakov](#):
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> > [@YvetteLans](#):
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> > I’m not able to add the Readwise highlight database as a source and Readwise is also not an option in the Integrations.
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> I think you can add it via Link Source Database menu

I think maybe it can’t be added because the rich text field is read-only, and highlights require sources to have an editable rich text field.

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**Author:** ![YvetteLans](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/yvettelans/32/6101_2.png) [@YvetteLans](https://community.fibery.io/u/YvetteLans)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:49am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/references-reloaded/4879/78 "2024-09-24T09:49:04Z")

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> [@mdubakov](#):
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> I think you can add it via Link Source Database menu

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/fibery/original/2X/d/de6dda63d0e06e335488b0a0b49f463b59386369.png)

> [@Chr1sG](#):
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> I think maybe it can’t be added because the rich text field is read-only, and highlights require sources to have an editable rich text field.

Yes although you also can’t change a message (email) and there you can use the highlight function 🤔

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**Author:** ![Chr1sG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/chr1sg/32/3941_2.png) [@Chr1sG](https://community.fibery.io/u/Chr1sG)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:58am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/references-reloaded/4879/79 "2024-09-24T09:58:26Z")

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> [@YvetteLans](#):
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> you also can’t change a message (email)

For an email integration Message database, the Message rich text field is actually editable.

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**Author:** ![YvetteLans](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/yvettelans/32/6101_2.png) [@YvetteLans](https://community.fibery.io/u/YvetteLans)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 12:08pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/references-reloaded/4879/80 "2024-09-24T12:08:07Z")

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> [@Chr1sG](#):
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> For an email integration Message database, the Message rich text field is actually editable.

Wow, never knew that 😅 (we copy the message to another database so we don’t use the message database at all)

> [@YvetteLans](#):
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> I’m not able to add the Readwise highlight database as a source and Readwise is also not an option in the Integrations.

Even when this is fixed; we just added our 6th and last source database so we can’t even add Readwise if we want to 🥲

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