# Linked (many) entity (from auto/rule) not visible from one 2 many, but visible when many 2 many?

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**Created:** [June 1, 2025, 5:10pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/linked-many-entity-from-auto-rule-not-visible-from-one-2-many-but-visible-when-many-2-many/8902 "2025-06-01T17:10:23Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 5:10pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/linked-many-entity-from-auto-rule-not-visible-from-one-2-many-but-visible-when-many-2-many/8902/1 "2025-06-01T17:10:23Z")

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Linked entity (from auto/rule) not visible from one 2 many, but visible when many 2 many?

I am currently implementing card + subcard functionality within fibery’s board view. It works out surprisingly well leveraging parent-card-pid and sub-card-pid +1 (all the same) and based on the parent card’s original pid. while only losing parent-card sorting/priority functionalities etc. as well as being bound to sort card+subcard combos all the way at top or bottom due to requirement for global sort.

 ![fibery_kanban_subcards_many2one_problem_pids](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/fibery/original/2X/0/09f9c73568b095f4764b4cd2ecdb742f2cb46d9a.png)

- haven’t thought much if truly the case as I usually am more of “tester/doer” when implementing things over 110% thought and eval. despite much eval:

but if conditional sorting was ever supported akin to conditional coloring the sort could probably be limited for such workaround and sort-based usecase/potential. (while possibly not impeding due to global/top-level sort criteria)

I’m somewhat confused as to why I’m not able to select or “see” the native/default and generated “card” (many) when it comes to rule/automation on linked-entity trigger, from “subcard” (one) perspective. however it perfectly shows up from the “card” (many) perspective. and also while simply using the exactly same native fibery fields and use-case within a many2many setup.

is this a bug? it seems inconsistent at least from someone not normally into DB’s relationships etc. or is it related to missing wip/roadmap polymorphy support or some other technical limiation?

 ![fibery_relation_from_one_2_many_pov_missing](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/fibery/original/2X/0/0b5b8980b084cd1fa67878ec6ca8d6fd85162bfd.png)

I don’t use any sort of autolinking. the fields i.e. relationships are not setup as “mandatory”.

after switching initially and sensibly unrelated the rules contain “deleted” relation/entity field which makes sense. (as the relationship/field was changed/deleted) but it seems impossible due to one to many context problem.

- sidenote: is there a roadmap for “ToNumber” Formula function? Thankfully Matt Blaise’s et al’s regex workaround helps but I’m sure many newcomers run into that common requirement.