# \[FIXED\] Formula in Name column breaks Entity View of relation **URL:** \ **Category:** Bugs & Issues\ **Created:** [April 29, 2022, 12:54am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/fixed-formula-in-name-column-breaks-entity-view-of-relation/2751 "2022-04-29T00:54:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Absolute](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Absolute](https://community.fibery.io/u/Absolute)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 12:54am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/fixed-formula-in-name-column-breaks-entity-view-of-relation/2751/1 "2022-04-29T00:54:20Z")
When an entity includes a relation, the Entity View (accessed any number of ways, including with the “Open entity” button on table views) displays in large colorful boxes a “+ Link or create” button: ![fibery-entity-view-create-relation](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/fibery/original/2X/d/df13d5e987544aa9bf4ff434061a88d94f8e28a1.png) If the Name column **of the relation** is generated using a formula (i.e. “Generate Name using Formula”), clicking the “+ Link or create” button and following the instructions “Start typing to create a new ” does **not** work: The result is invariably a new blank entity, and whatever was typed is lost. Is there a fix for this, e.g. by having the ability to specify which column “Start typing to create …” will populate? ---
**Author:** ![Chr1sG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/chr1sg/32/3941_2.png) [@Chr1sG](https://community.fibery.io/u/Chr1sG)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 6:23am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/fixed-formula-in-name-column-breaks-entity-view-of-relation/2751/2 "2022-04-29T06:23:35Z")
> [@Absolute](#): > > whatever was typed is lost. If an entity has a name generated by a formula, then whatever you type will be overridden by the formula as calculated (and in many cases, like yours, this is blank). It’s not really a bug, since the name is read-only if a formula is used. It’s probably better described as a poor UX/UI, since it’s reasonable that the user expects that being invited to type something would mean that what is being typed will be used for something(!) It is fair that you are expecting that what you type will be stored in one of the enitity’s other fields. ---
**Author:** ![Chr1sG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/chr1sg/32/3941_2.png) [@Chr1sG](https://community.fibery.io/u/Chr1sG)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 6:25am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/fixed-formula-in-name-column-breaks-entity-view-of-relation/2751/3 "2022-04-29T06:25:26Z")
There is some discussion of it here: > [@Add ability to open a new record pop-up](https://community.fibery.io/t/add-ability-to-open-a-new-record-pop-up/2487): > > Every record has record lists. “+ Link or create” is confusing when you want to create a new record with a formula name. This ONE button does TWO actions: link or create. For instance, we have a parent record. The child object has the name field as a formula. When we want to add a new record, the system shows “Start typing to create a new record”. Why? After that we have to do several unnecessary clicks: [screencast 2022-02-04 09-44-16] Guys, please add (or provide a setting) to just open a n… ---
**Author:** ![Absolute](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Absolute](https://community.fibery.io/u/Absolute)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/fixed-formula-in-name-column-breaks-entity-view-of-relation/2751/4 "2022-04-29T23:44:01Z")
Appreciate the insight. However, despite the mechanics, certainly a UX failure of this magnitude deserves to be labelled a bug. Given that relations tend to propagate over time, and that the Entity View is standard throughout Fibery for all users and views, this UX failure leads me to conclude that we’re best off simply not using formulas in the Name field at all until this is addressed. ---
**Author:** ![mdubakov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/mdubakov/32/10_2.png) [@mdubakov](https://community.fibery.io/u/mdubakov)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2025, 1:11pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/fixed-formula-in-name-column-breaks-entity-view-of-relation/2751/5 "2025-04-17T13:11:07Z")
released > [@April 17, 2025 / leaf\_fluttering\_in\_wind Duplicate Field, Improve Entity creation flow when entity name is generated via a formula, Multi-accounts in Google calendar](https://community.fibery.io/t/april-17-2025-duplicate-field-improve-entity-creation-flow-when-entity-name-is-generated-via-a-formula-multi-accounts-in-google-calendar/8625): > > This release has several quality of life improvements for creators and users. Enjoy! leaf_fluttering_in_wind Duplicate Field Imagine you setup a long and beautiful single-select field for Tasks database and suddenly realise that you need it in Bugs database as well. You had to re-create it from scratch… No more! Now you can quickly duplicate basic fields (including single- and multi-selects) into another database. squid Improve Entity creation flow when entity name is generated via a… ---
**Author:** ![Chr1sG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/chr1sg/32/3941_2.png) [@Chr1sG](https://community.fibery.io/u/Chr1sG)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 2:34pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/fixed-formula-in-name-column-breaks-entity-view-of-relation/2751/6 "2025-04-19T14:34:26Z")