# \[DONE\] Whiteboard - Visualizations of Relations that are not just Parent/Child **URL:** \ **Category:** Ideas & Features\ **Tags:** whiteboard\ **Created:** [February 7, 2020, 12:22am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-whiteboard-visualizations-of-relations-that-are-not-just-parent-child/552 "2020-02-07T00:22:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![B\_Sp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@B\_Sp](https://community.fibery.io/u/B_Sp)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2020, 12:22am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-whiteboard-visualizations-of-relations-that-are-not-just-parent-child/552/1 "2020-02-07T00:22:42Z")
Hey Guys, Excited for the next iteration of Whiteboards, and I know you have big plans for this amazing feature, one of my favorite of Fibery. I have been digging into it more, and I realize now that it seems to only visualize relations within a hierarchy that you define within an App - so for example an “Epic” is a parent of a “Task.” I am really hoping to see some more context that would allow me to build diagrams with: - Multiple connections illustrating relations between entities. An “extra” would be the ability to have an arrow showing the direction of the connection, although I guess this would have to be set up as a new function of relations between entities so you’d know if a relation is “pointing” from one entity to another. This could be useful for say dependencies if you build them in, or another use would be “discovered during” in the case of software - you’d have one entity pointing to another that was the “discovered” one. - Ability to use related entities as groups. As I mentioned here: > [@Tips for best configuration to take advantage of Diagram in Whiteboard?](https://community.fibery.io/t/tips-for-best-configuration-to-take-advantage-of-diagram-in-whiteboard/551): > > Hi guys, I was wondering if you could advice on the best configuration for a desired output I’d like to get out of the Whiteboard view in an app: I am trying to represent my Software Development Platform which I build some web apps on. It is divided into the standard “Frontend, Mid-Tier, Infrastructure” arrangement. I’ll be planning and building features in Fibery that are going to cross these tiers. The Features are made up from components, like a db table that resides in Infrastructure, a… I’m hoping to group entities into “layers” based on their relations to other entities. So for example if I could group by a relation, I could see all related entities to entities in a certain Type in “layers” in the diagram. This would be super useful in a number of instances, for example product groupings of features, Customers by products that they use if a company has many of each, etc. Thanks guys and really eager to see what’s next with Whiteboards! ---
**Author:** ![Oshyan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/oshyan/32/11431_2.png) [@Oshyan](https://community.fibery.io/u/Oshyan)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 7:29pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-whiteboard-visualizations-of-relations-that-are-not-just-parent-child/552/2 "2023-10-19T19:29:17Z")
Hmm, this is really interesting. I’m honestly having trouble visualizing exactly what you want to do, but I _do_ like the idea (that I think you are articulating, in part) of more programmatic, non-destructive ways of viewing entities/things on the Whiteboard/Canvas. I do feel like this might be tangential to base Whiteboard functionality, and difficult to get right, but also potentially quite powerful. For example ability to select an arbitrary set of Entities on the Board and perform some operation like “Group by Parent”, or “Sort by Name”, and then perform additional manual changes after that. I realize this may be a bit different than you were suggesting, but I’m more brainstorming here… It’s a fine balance though to pick which of such features might be really powerful and frequently useful, vs. more niche and specialized. I would see these things potentially coming in some further future (1-2 yrs from now perhaps), if ever. In the meantime just the capabilities that Obsidian Canvas has and the smoothness with which it works would enable a lot, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Minh\_Tri\_Do\_Hang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/minh_tri_do_hang/32/6791_2.png) [@Minh\_Tri\_Do\_Hang](https://community.fibery.io/u/Minh_Tri_Do_Hang)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 9:05pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-whiteboard-visualizations-of-relations-that-are-not-just-parent-child/552/3 "2023-10-19T21:05:01Z")
well, we can reference Excalibrain Plugin in Obsidian, which done really well on this ---
**Author:** ![Chr1sG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/chr1sg/32/3941_2.png) [@Chr1sG](https://community.fibery.io/u/Chr1sG)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 9:24am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-whiteboard-visualizations-of-relations-that-are-not-just-parent-child/552/4 "2024-04-19T09:24:24Z")
Have the recent releases made whiteboard more useful for you? > [@April 11, 2024 / Groups in List View (experimental), Whiteboard Relation Tool](https://community.fibery.io/t/april-11-2024-groups-in-list-view-experimental-whiteboard-relation-tool/6071): > > wolf Groups in List View (experimental) Now you can group entity at any level in List View by relation, state, single- and multi-select fields. You can add groups to all levels, but only one group per-level is supported. Drag and drop works as expected. Setup is streamlined and should be easy to do sweat_smile. Feature is experimental, please activate it in Settings → Experimental Lab. [2024-04-11 09.41.30] Up next, we’re tackling any leftover bugs and adding a grouping feature to the Ta… > [@April 18, 2024 / Move Fields between Entity View sections, wide rich-text tables](https://community.fibery.io/t/april-18-2024-move-fields-between-entity-view-sections-wide-rich-text-tables/6089): > > truck Move Fields between Entity View sections [move-fields-between-sections-2] Move Fields to the main section of the Entity View, no matter their type. This is especially useful when Fields currently on the right are somehow connected to the ones on the left: for example, Generate description Button can be close to Description now. Works for both 2-column and 1-column layouts. Moving the Fields originating in the main section (e.g. rich-text, to-many relations) to the right/top is coming l… ---
**Author:** ![mdubakov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/mdubakov/32/10_2.png) [@mdubakov](https://community.fibery.io/u/mdubakov)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 7:23am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-whiteboard-visualizations-of-relations-that-are-not-just-parent-child/552/5 "2024-07-05T07:23:39Z")