# \[DONE\] Smart Folder showing "No {Entity}" regardless of filters **URL:** \ **Category:** Ideas & Features\ **Tags:** context-empire\ **Created:** [July 13, 2022, 6:59pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-smart-folder-showing-no-entity-regardless-of-filters/3070 "2022-07-13T18:59:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![calh-fsp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/calh-fsp/32/14571_2.png) [@calh-fsp](https://community.fibery.io/u/calh-fsp)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 6:59pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-smart-folder-showing-no-entity-regardless-of-filters/3070/1 "2022-07-13T18:59:07Z")
Hi, I’m continually running into a Smart Folder issue and wondering if others have experienced the same. I have a **Strategy** space with _Objective_ and _Key Result_ databases. I have a relation on the _Key Result_ database relating KR entities to our _Team_ entities in another space. My objective is to have individual Team-specific spaces with Smart Folders of OKRs to which the specific teams are assigned. This gives my teams a hyper-focused view of the OKRs on which they should be focusing their efforts. I have been able to successfully configure this Smart Folder in each team space. The issue I’m seeing is that the Smart Folder lists the _Objectives_ and _Key Results_ appropriately but also displays a **No Objective** folder. I have attempted many filter combinations and have been unable to find the appropriate configuration to remove the **No Objective** folder from being listed. I’m hoping someone else has run into this as well. I’m grateful for any tips or tricks you all may have. Here’s a whiteboard of our structure concept: ![CleanShot 2022-07-13 at 13.57.56](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/fibery/original/2X/a/a990f77f2e0fa94bc53569f7e053b3501ccc1507.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Chr1sG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/chr1sg/32/3941_2.png) [@Chr1sG](https://community.fibery.io/u/Chr1sG)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 7:09pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-smart-folder-showing-no-entity-regardless-of-filters/3070/2 "2022-07-13T19:09:29Z")
The ‘No objective’ folder exists to show Key Results that are not linked to any Objective (if there are any) _and_ to allow Key Result to be created without a parent Objective. There is no trick to removing it - it is not intended that it should be able to be removed. Of course, that decision can be debated. ---
**Author:** ![calh-fsp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/calh-fsp/32/14571_2.png) [@calh-fsp](https://community.fibery.io/u/calh-fsp)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-smart-folder-showing-no-entity-regardless-of-filters/3070/3 "2022-07-13T19:35:52Z")
Thanks for your response, @Chr1sG. I understand your explanation. Though, I will skew to your “that decision can be debated” comment. As with any process, it’s ideal to train team members the ideal path of conducting work according to the process. In this specific scenario with OKRs, it is bad practice to allow team members to create KRs without associating those with their respective Objectives. While the display of the folder “No Objective” would expose those KRs without an assigned Objective, it presents users with the ability and opportunity to perform a less than ideal workflow of creating KRs without a relationship to Objectives. Additionally, the display of “No Objective” is more _noise_ for the user and potentially leads users to perceive a negative case of something being wrong with their OKRs. There are many scenarios where this might apply: Features without an assigned Product Area, Support Tickets without an assigned Customer, Contacts without an assigned Company, so on and so forth. I can see both sides of this debate, of why one would want this “No {Entity}” folder to appear while others would want it hidden. Seems like this comes down to user preference, which could necessitate a possible improvement to how Smart Folders are hidden: possibly a **Hide entities _without_ a parent entity relationship** toggle option. ---
**Author:** ![calh-fsp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/calh-fsp/32/14571_2.png) [@calh-fsp](https://community.fibery.io/u/calh-fsp)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 7:47pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-smart-folder-showing-no-entity-regardless-of-filters/3070/4 "2022-07-13T19:47:35Z")
> [@Chr1sG](#): > > There is no trick to removing it - it is not intended that it should be able to be removed. Interestingly enough, I just realized the functionality to hide “No Objective” already exists in the Board View with **KRs** as the cards and **Objectives** as the lanes. Given the Filters feature is developed for use across all View types, it seems that adding this “hide” functionality to the Smart Folders filter might require only a small effort to implement. ![CleanShot 2022-07-13 at 14.41.15](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/fibery/original/2X/5/5c6489bb8dade0ae077f6093b5ca6f7a6b7e23f0.jpeg) ![CleanShot 2022-07-13 at 14.43.59](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/fibery/original/2X/5/53602a1df3a95006c4b8f1998071353f21e1de5a.png) ---
**Author:** ![Chr1sG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/chr1sg/32/3941_2.png) [@Chr1sG](https://community.fibery.io/u/Chr1sG)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-smart-folder-showing-no-entity-regardless-of-filters/3070/5 "2022-07-13T19:50:32Z")
Indeed. I agree that there will be different user preferences. And yes, we should look to see how hard it would be to implement. By the way, in your case, rather than > [@calh-fsp](#): > > Hide entities _without_ a parent entity relationship isn’t what you need ‘Hide (parent) entities without any children’ ? ---
**Author:** ![calh-fsp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/calh-fsp/32/14571_2.png) [@calh-fsp](https://community.fibery.io/u/calh-fsp)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 8:19pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-smart-folder-showing-no-entity-regardless-of-filters/3070/6 "2022-07-13T20:19:37Z")
> [@Chr1sG](#): > > isn’t what you need ‘Hide (parent) entities without any children’ ? Good catch! Yes, you are correct. Query-wise, I’m expecting the selection of KRs, grouped by Objective. In this case if KRs _ **without parent Objectives** _ existed, then we’d be okay with the **“No Objective”** folder appearing. Otherwise, hide the **“No Objective”** folder if it contains no children KRs (similar to how Objectives are hidden if the team has no children KRs related to that Objective). ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ichter](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/michael_ichter/32/9931_2.png) [@Michael\_Ichter](https://community.fibery.io/u/Michael_Ichter)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2024, 8:04am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-smart-folder-showing-no-entity-regardless-of-filters/3070/7 "2024-12-26T08:04:36Z")
I was about to create an extremely similar topic, but thought it might be more appropriate for me to voice my comment here. Is there a reason for this “No {Entity}” folder to appear when there are no daughter items within it? In this case, it seems to just be clutter without any benefit, and it detracts from the UX that we’d like for our employees to have. I like the “No {Entity}” sections within views to keep track of entities that don’t fall within the states (or other categories) assigned. But with smart folders, we use them to help people focus on their roles and domains. For example, we have a Programs smart folder with nested Projects folders, and within these Projects are mirrored views for Tasks and Publications. Every Project will be a part of a Program, so it doesn’t make sense for us to have a “No Program” item within the smart folder. ---
**Author:** ![mdubakov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/mdubakov/32/10_2.png) [@mdubakov](https://community.fibery.io/u/mdubakov)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2024, 8:23am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-smart-folder-showing-no-entity-regardless-of-filters/3070/8 "2024-12-26T08:23:02Z")
We will add a setting to not show it eventually ---
**Author:** ![mdubakov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/mdubakov/32/10_2.png) [@mdubakov](https://community.fibery.io/u/mdubakov)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 2:36pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-smart-folder-showing-no-entity-regardless-of-filters/3070/9 "2025-11-06T14:36:01Z")
Implemented in today’s release > [@November 6, 2025 / Contributor Space access is being deprecated, Edit entities you create, Hide empty "No parent" groups](https://community.fibery.io/t/november-6-2025-contributor-space-access-is-being-deprecated-edit-entities-you-create-hide-empty-no-parent-groups/9967): > > Contributor Space access is being deprecated Now that we have a [new](https://community.fibery.io/t/october-30-2025-share-entities-to-web-using-access-templates-new-names-for-access-levels-improved-file-fields-support-in-automations/9924) beautiful (and consistent!) set of Space access levels, we will gradually deprecate the legacy Contributor access: Quick reminder: Contributors can see and comment on all entities in the Space as well as create new ones. Additionally, Contributors can edit entities they have created or are assigned to. Contributor access is an echo of dark times when you couldn’t [share a Database](https://the.fibery.io/@public/User_Guide/Guide/Share-Database-342) or [automatically share Entities with …](https://the.fibery.io/@public/User_Guide/Guide/Automatically-Share-Entities-with-assigned-People-327) ---
**Author:** ![Chr1sG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/chr1sg/32/3941_2.png) [@Chr1sG](https://community.fibery.io/u/Chr1sG)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-smart-folder-showing-no-entity-regardless-of-filters/3070/10 "2025-11-06T15:17:23Z")