# \[DONE\] Sidebar Space (aka App) sort order **URL:** \ **Category:** Ideas & Features\ **Tags:** left-menu\ **Created:** [October 19, 2019, 5:08am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-sidebar-space-aka-app-sort-order/357 "2019-10-19T05:08:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rickcogley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/rickcogley/32/274_2.png) [@rickcogley](https://community.fibery.io/u/rickcogley)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 5:08am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-sidebar-space-aka-app-sort-order/357/1 "2019-10-19T05:08:31Z")
Hi - what’s the default app sort order, for the icons on the left? I see that I can drag/drop the icons up or down, but, does that change show for everyone?, or, do I need to get each user to drag/drop them how they like? It would be great if an admin could define the default, then if the users want to change it, they can. ---
**Author:** ![Oshyan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/oshyan/32/11431_2.png) [@Oshyan](https://community.fibery.io/u/Oshyan)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 8:40pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-sidebar-space-aka-app-sort-order/357/2 "2020-09-14T20:40:24Z")
Big upvote for this request! I just spent several minutes trying to explain where something was, but of course it was in a different location on their screen than mine. I’m the admin and should be able to set default, and maybe some kind of small, persistent indicator when someone has customized the menu. Or maybe you should even consider having the main menu as admin-only organization, and a separate area that users can personalize… ---
**Author:** ![B\_Sp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@B\_Sp](https://community.fibery.io/u/B_Sp)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 2:46am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-sidebar-space-aka-app-sort-order/357/4 "2020-09-15T02:46:22Z")
Yes glad you discovered this! I assume you’ve seen by now, as you mentioned you were perusing the boards, a lot of @rickcogley and @Shafqat_Ullah’s early posts. Unfortunately I haven’t seen either of them around a while, but in the early days they both were posting quite a bit of good stuff for the beta, feel like you, @Chr1sG, maybe myself 🙂 have been carrying on the torch! Not to beat it to death, but really have been thinking the last day or so about @helloitse suggestion that I was about to make and how nice it would be organize some of these requests, and upvote as well: > [@Upgrade Discource Features to include voting, tagging](https://community.fibery.io/t/upgrade-discource-features-to-include-voting-tagging/938/2): > > Love this request @helloitse, was going to in fact post myself something like this and I found it! A lot of the other up-and-coming tools out there allow the ability to vote-up features. Some have it in Discourse, off the top of my head: AirTable Asana Monday And ClickUp famously does this, but in another tool Canny and I think that has gotten out of control more than they bargained for… I agree we have dup requests in here, and may basic requests around things like “recurring Tasks” that … The left sidebar is a great subject in and of itself. There has been talk of: - Smartfolders (most recently I picked up something cryptic here… [https://twitter.com/unutranyholas/status/1303662643388059649](https://twitter.com/unutranyholas/status/1303662643388059649)) - Handling of Entities that have the option of “show entity in the left menu”, and thus show up in a hierarchy of sorts, but one that I’ve found challenging, at times not working correctly that I’ve pinged the team via Intercom about - Ordering Apps as discussed here - Your latest [here](https://community.fibery.io/t/collapsible-sidebar/978) Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![ccollins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ccollins](https://community.fibery.io/u/ccollins)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 2:50pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-sidebar-space-aka-app-sort-order/357/5 "2022-07-29T14:50:36Z")
I like that each user can change the order of spaces to be whatever fits their need. But it can be confusing for new users. The order of my spaces is intentional for how information travels and the natural workflow of my company. Seeing these out of order slows the onboarding process when I bring new teams on. Would it be possible to create a default space order in the settings, but each user can then adjust if they want something different after they’re more accustomed to Fibery? ---
**Author:** ![Chr1sG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/chr1sg/32/3941_2.png) [@Chr1sG](https://community.fibery.io/u/Chr1sG)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-sidebar-space-aka-app-sort-order/357/6 "2022-07-29T14:54:36Z")
Spaces used to be called apps, so I think this is the same as this: > [@Sidebar Space (aka App) sort order](https://community.fibery.io/t/sidebar-app-sort-order/357): > > Hi - what’s the default app sort order, for the icons on the left? I see that I can drag/drop the icons up or down, but, does that change show for everyone?, or, do I need to get each user to drag/drop them how they like? It would be great if an admin could define the default, then if the users want to change it, they can. If you agree, we can merge these topics. ---
**Author:** ![ccollins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ccollins](https://community.fibery.io/u/ccollins)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-sidebar-space-aka-app-sort-order/357/7 "2022-07-29T14:57:47Z")
Awesome, glad it has been noted before. Looks to be the same idea, thanks @Chr1sG ---
**Author:** ![Chr1sG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/chr1sg/32/3941_2.png) [@Chr1sG](https://community.fibery.io/u/Chr1sG)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 9:28am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-sidebar-space-aka-app-sort-order/357/8 "2022-08-22T09:28:39Z")
Here’s a tip if you (as an Admin) want to ‘push’ the left menu ordering you have to any other users: Create a button automation on the User db, and use the following script: ```auto const fibery = context.getService('fibery'); for (const entity of args.currentEntities) { const userToCopy = await fibery.getEntityById(entity.type, args.currentUser['Id'], ['fibery/menu-rank']); await fibery.updateEntity(entity.type, entity.id, { 'fibery/menu-rank': userToCopy['fibery/menu-rank'] }); } ``` Then select any User and press the button. This user’s left menu will now be ordered to match yours. (of course, depending on the permissions, they may not see all the same spaces as you). ---
**Author:** ![Matt\_Blais](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/matt_blais/32/1464_2.png) [@Matt\_Blais](https://community.fibery.io/u/Matt_Blais)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 5:51pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-sidebar-space-aka-app-sort-order/357/9 "2023-10-05T17:51:05Z")
This script does not copy the open/closed state of the Left Menu Spaces. Is that even possible? E.g. it would be nice to start new Users off with the Left Menu spaces closed, to minimize clutter, like having _Hidden Spaces_ be closed by default. ---
**Author:** ![Chr1sG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/chr1sg/32/3941_2.png) [@Chr1sG](https://community.fibery.io/u/Chr1sG)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 5:57pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-sidebar-space-aka-app-sort-order/357/10 "2023-10-05T17:57:48Z")
I don’t think the expanded/collapsed status is stored on the backend, so there’s no way to access it in a script ---
**Author:** ![interr0bangr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/interr0bangr/32/8089_2.png) [@interr0bangr](https://community.fibery.io/u/interr0bangr)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 10:04pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-sidebar-space-aka-app-sort-order/357/11 "2024-05-09T22:04:57Z")
I’m just seeing @Chr1sG script now, but it looks like it will be very helpful! Does it only change the order/rank of things, or does it also mirror the visibility of what I’ve favorited, hidden, put in “My Space” etc? Also, will it also apply the new “smart space” settings that were just released? Sorry for the questions, just nervous to do it without knowing exactly what it will influence. ---
**Author:** ![mdubakov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/mdubakov/32/10_2.png) [@mdubakov](https://community.fibery.io/u/mdubakov)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 11:26am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-sidebar-space-aka-app-sort-order/357/12 "2025-03-26T11:26:03Z")
Now sort order is set by admin for all users ---
**Author:** ![Chr1sG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/chr1sg/32/3941_2.png) [@Chr1sG](https://community.fibery.io/u/Chr1sG)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 11:44am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/done-sidebar-space-aka-app-sort-order/357/13 "2025-03-26T11:44:21Z")