# DateTime skewed 18 hours after formulas

**URL:** <https://community.fibery.io/t/datetime-skewed-18-hours-after-formulas/4744>\
**Category:** Bugs & Issues\
**Created:** [July 6, 2023, 11:48pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/datetime-skewed-18-hours-after-formulas/4744 "2023-07-06T23:48:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![Mother\_Bones](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/mother_bones/32/6927_2.png) [@Mother\_Bones](https://community.fibery.io/u/Mother_Bones)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 11:48pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/datetime-skewed-18-hours-after-formulas/4744/1 "2023-07-06T23:48:03Z")

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I imported a dataset in UTC after reading Fibery only operated in UTC and was unaware of client / user timezone (or so I understood from your documentation). However I found out this is absolutely not the case.

So apparently Fibery converted my imported time values from my Denver time zone, and then it **continues to add another 6 hours every time I use that DateTime in a formula**. In other words, the only way I can get visually identical dates to “match” is to run a formula subtracting 19 hours. But this is problematic because that will cause anything earlier than 19:00 to be one day earlier than they’re supposed to be.

Ideally, what I want has the following requirements:

- All dates ALWAYS show in UTC (I’m in Denver right now but that changes often, regardless I want all dates in UTC)
- Date imported as “July 4” should return true for filters of “July 4” (real simple stuff here)
- Exact time is not as important as general time of day in UTC (so feasibly I could import it with the time once, then set a single-select for the “time of day” to hold a value that won’t get fudged and keeps all date fields to just dates from here on out)

Why UTC? UTC is the location of the door, for my purposes. As I write this it’s nearly midnight UTC - it’s about to be the next day, according to Earth. THAT is what matters to me. The last thing I want to do is adjust all my formulas because I’ve moved time zones (which I do often) so I can find that door.

I would rather set my timezone to UTC OR let Fibery default to making zero time conversions on imports. I fully did not expect my data to get fudged before I even saw it in the database.

BUT for now, I very urgently need a workaround.

How can I:

1. Import my 18 CSV datasets presently in UTC fully intact and virginally unchanged / displaying as UTC without changing my computer’s timeclock
2. Do formulas without adding 6 hours every time (as mentioned before, maybe just using only Date fields and a single-select for general time of day is the solution)

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**Author:** ![Chr1sG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/chr1sg/32/3941_2.png) [@Chr1sG](https://community.fibery.io/u/Chr1sG)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 7:17am UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/datetime-skewed-18-hours-after-formulas/4744/2 "2023-07-07T07:17:19Z")

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You can [force your browser to think you are in UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/relate-entities-based-on-dates-and-make-more-entities/4728/11).  
Then you can do whatever you like, and Fibery frontend and backend will always match.

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**Author:** ![Mother\_Bones](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.fibery.io/mother_bones/32/6927_2.png) [@Mother\_Bones](https://community.fibery.io/u/Mother_Bones)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 8:01pm UTC](https://community.fibery.io/t/datetime-skewed-18-hours-after-formulas/4744/3 "2023-07-07T20:01:47Z")

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That works for my own environment but kills Fibery as a viable option for this project at this time. When you can specify time zone at the instance or user level, I might consider it if it’s soon enough – but otherwise it’s looking like Unreal (yes a game development engine) might be my best bet. Primarily because I can use one language that I already know AND it will render diagrams programmatically. But, for what it’s worth - I got closer to a final version with Fibery than I did with Zenkit, Google Sheets, or any other platform. Kudos.
